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Kylie who?
Thursday, 31 January 2008 02:25
p12---opinion250.jpgWhen will our community get over its Kylie fixation? Jody Horowitz wants to know.

The only thing sadder than watching the ageing and criminally self-obsessed Kylie Minogue these days, is witnessing the pathetic and undying reverence the gay community has extended to her for so many years, with so little reward back.

If you imagine she holds us in the same reverent regard as we do her, just count the interviews she delivers to the embarrassingly adoring gay press and the number of creative excuses she always fabricates to explain away her lack of attendance at Sydney’s Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras (the most recent delivered to a fawning Larry Emdur).

That wonderfully practiced smile, fake accent and manufactured personality return only when a new album, video or concert tour is being promoted.

You would have to be seriously drug-addled, or slightly brain dead, not to notice the carefully staged interview she recently delivered on Sunrise; in her sparkling metallic dress, with her cosmetically enhanced face. Even a deaf man could hear that not one genuine moment was shared once she opened her mouth.

She exhibited all the artificial warmth of a sunlamp.

How stupid are we allowing ourselves to become? It’s like that ridiculous old excuse you always hear on The Jerry Springer Show when yet another abused guest is asked, ‘But why do you allow your boyfriend to beat you up and lock you in the house?’

The answer is always the same: ‘But I love him!’

Ask Tina Turner what love has to do with it. She’s weathered her share of angry fists.

I filed for a quick Mexican divorce from Ms Minogue the day I heard her drumming up business on Foxtel’s Max music
channel.

“Sometimes I’ll be walking down the street, just to pick up something at a store, and even I forget who I am,” she bleated.

The attempt at false modesty nearly made me sick.

Yes, Kylie, you might be considered a priceless gay icon to many, but you haven’t reached sainthood yet. (Although her legion of fans is probably petitioning the Pope right now. And burning my effigy, too.)

Why does the gay community offer its hard-earned money and feverish devotion to people who couldn’t care less about us – until they have a new CD or DVD to flog? Isn’t it a bit like having sex with a straight man and making believe he really loves us, and not his wife?

Why don’t we more diligently support our own struggling gay artists instead of wasting our metaphoric chocolates and flowers on unrequited lovers? We’ve let irreplaceable talents like Janis Ian, to name but one, slip into obscurity in favour of someone with a cute arse and a snappy hairdo.

Why are we more interested in Madonna and Kylie than Rufus Wainwright and kd lang? What did Garland, Minnelli, Davis or Ross ever do for us?

Isn’t time we rubbed the glitter from our eyes, washed the gel from our hair, and found out who are friends really are?

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written by Matthew_Kyliefan , April 25, 2008

This article is a complete load of rubbish.

Sure, the author has a right to express an opinion, and I openly encourage that. But the constant attack on Kylie is just completely unfounded and way wide of the mark.

But that said, it is nothing new. Kylie has endured a constant and ongoing storm of criticism since she first appeared on the music scene all those years ago. She was vulnerable at first, but she has since become wise and has toughened up quite considerably. Nothing much rattles her these days and she has a sense of conviction about herself that I can only admire and wish to obtain.

Kylie is a gay icon, but to suggest that she does not care about her gay following is really narrow-minded. Kylie has expressed her gratitude for her acceptance within the gay community, and on numerous occasions has taken the time to reflect on how she was embraced and loved by the gay community when she was nothing more than a hated figure within the public realm.

To be honest, this article is a summation of the constant arguments used time and time again against Kylie. The idea that she is manufactured and fake during interviews is a load of rubbish. Kylie has been burned many times before and what you see is a woman who is so amazingly talented when it comes to addressing the media. Like someone else pointed out above, she knows how to play the media as well as they have played her in the past. Kylie is a woman in control and refuses to allow the media to dictate terms with her.

Kylie is fun and bubbly and her music is a welcome change to a world full of depressing issues. She provides an escape, a chance to laugh and a chance to realize that it is OK to be ourselves, despite what other people might say.

Sure, go ahead and push the same criticisms of Kylie. Your article smacks of jealousy and really it makes you appear bitter and cold. Don't go hating on someone because they have the get up and go attitude to chase things in life that you may never experience.

Congratulations, Kylie, on a wonderful career that keeps gaining in strength. Your detractors out there can continue to sound off in the background, but is anyone really paying too much attention?

Love you, Kylie.

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written by Mylo , February 09, 2008

Jody:

Thnx for writing this article. Finally I found someone that doesn't adore Kylie!

It could be because in my youth I never heard about her (in North America before 2002 she was a total stranger there - and probable still is!)

Or maybe because her music is the same thing as Britney, the Spice Girls or all that pop mainstream that I am tired of.

Or maybe just because as you, I have the right to not like her without trying to justify myself why.

I don't agree with you that an artist has to be gay so we can be their fan, but I do agree that Kylie should be more supportive of the huge gay Australian population that worships her.

Anyway... Thnx for opening my eyes! - I'm not alone!!

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written by Mark Mark , February 07, 2008

God bless you for finally telling the obvious truth: Kylie is a self-obsessed narcissistic talentless dwarf.

Why on Earth would anybody be afraid to point this out?

Ah, because otherwise the hysterical queens will bitch at you. I mean, look at the revolting comments these losers have been leaving here. Sheesh, get a life, fairies.

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written by Michael Rosolini , February 02, 2008

How very dare you talk about Kylie in this way? You should be ashamed of yourself!
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written by Ex-Sydneysider , February 01, 2008

Oh... FFS don't care if she's doing it for the money

Madonna, Janet, bla, bla, bla, oh yeah, cos they have all got their arse to Mardi Gras, Min's a traitor!

And the "piece writer's" (certainly not a journo piece) is just the reason I don't go to gay bars & clubs; I have a personality that shines (so I'm told) and all I get is the most utter vulgar BITCHY attacks for being a nice person

The writer's attitude is commonplace in the gay community & yet you wonder why homophobia still exists. It's not just the nature of orientation... it's the perception of a GAY person.

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written by boysy , February 01, 2008

Gay people don't support gay artists enough? Why should our sexuality determine what artists we support and what art we enjoy? I refuse to support an artist because they're gay, or supportive of the gay community. We all enjoy what we enjoy. We can't always explain why, but trying to explain why someone shouldn't enjoy something is ridiculous.
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written by ladylunch , February 01, 2008

You're seriously misled. For a start, I think you're self-obsessed because you so clearly believe that your opinion is correct, and won't accept that others have different opinions.

I don't worship Kylie because of what she has or has not done for our community, I respect her as an artist. She is an artist. Full Stop! She is allowed to sing about whatever she wants and market her music to whomever she chooses. She doesn't have to perform at Mardi Gras! It has nothing to do with sexuality.

Why do gay men love Kylie? Well it's simple: because her music is fun! And nothing about it is self-obsessed. I don't think people realise the skill and creative control it takes to maintain Kylie's longevity in the entertainment industry.

Kylie, I salute you. Jody Horowitz, you may not enjoy Kylie's work, but she's a popstar and an artist, it's subjective. There is no right or wrong in art, we all have our opinions, but you must learn that an opinion is just an opinion. An opinion isn't wrong or right. It's just a certain way of looking at something.

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written by Guhh , January 31, 2008

loser!
Kylie is the best!

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written by Marky , January 31, 2008

The venom directed at one individual in this article really takes away from what is actually a very good point. Gay people don't give enough support gay artsts and favour gilttery showgirls, like Kylie, Cher, Madonna, Whitney, Britney etc. None of these people ever said "Worship me thy subjects of sodom" did they?"... at the end of the day they are there to make money so wgi can blame them for going with it.
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written by Roger , January 31, 2008

Absolute rubbish. I am shocked you probably get paid to write that. You should be locked in a box for a few hundred years to sort yourself out.

Kylie is not one of the wonders of the world, I admit. She is however an icon that gives pleasure to millions of people around the world. That all that matters really.

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written by Nathan , January 31, 2008

I think it's very offensive to suggest that gay people are some kind of tragic losers hanging around an artist like a bad smell, who doesn't like them back. Give us queers more credit than that...

It's simple as this: gay people have largely had an affinity with pop music and Kylie is one of the most unashamed pop artists of our time. She knows it, celebrates it and gives so much back to her gay fans, it's almost laughable you think otherwise. Think of the gay undertones to the Slow video, the naked men during the Red Blooded Woman Showgirl performance and her inclusion of Somewhere Over The Rainbow on the same tour.

Kylie's not everyone's cup of tea, but she's certainly mine and for many gay people, theirs' too.

LONG MAY SHE REIGN!


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written by Peter1 , January 31, 2008

'Hail to Kylie, my second mum'? And Henk has the comically perverse audacity to suggest the writer should get a life? Now that's funny...
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written by brad c , January 31, 2008

I am thinking written in the morning after a night on the turps? So bitter and not the least bit professional.
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written by gerard , January 31, 2008

OK, I'm not really a fan of Kylie and but I think that's a tad harsh. Kylie isn't meant to be taken seriously and that seems to be what you're doing. She a pop star, she's never going to be profound or deep and she doesn't have to share every facet of herself with you or the rest of the public.

I respect the fact that she has kept something of herself sacred. if I was in her position, I would want to keep at least a shred of privacy.

You sound incredibly bitter. So what? that's your opinion. You are entitled to it.. but It must make you even more cynical knowing that the majority do not share it.

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written by Perez , January 30, 2008

don't think your theory stands up at all. Gay clubbing itself is hugely diverse. The most stereotypical example of what you're talking about are clubs which play house, techno etc and they obviously aren't soundtracked by Kylie. I go to plenty of gay nights which would never play Kylie. And if Kylie was so revered by gay people simply because she soundtracked their nights out, then why not the countless other pop stars that do? And if this WAS the reason she was an 'icon', why call someone arguing against her status 'raving mad' or a 'zealot' when, by your own logic, he perhaps isn't one of those clubbing gays and she says absolutely nothing to him? His attack would be exactly the same as your dismissal of Rufus.

The poll wasn't by a gay mag, it was by a polling group. And Dolly Parton and Judy Garland were also in the top 10. They clearly don't soundtrack the nights out of many gay people.

Please, stop trying to sound intellectual when the theory you are advancing is utterly trite and riddled with inconsistencies

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written by kenny , January 30, 2008

Ugh, that's the type of "fellow gay" that annoys the hell out of me. "What has done for US, the gays?" Give me a break. It sounds a lot like the b/s campaigns used against Hilary Clinton in the US--"what has she done for the black people?"

And I'm sorry to sound equalyl harsh--but the reason a lot of "gay artists" struggle with attention from other gays is usually because they just flat-out blow hardcore. Melissa Ehtridge is one of the few known gay musicians that I can think of that's worth a damn.

"Gays" tend to love Kylie because she is fun, exciting, full of energy, beautiful, and churns out kickass music and imagery--and she has never been "ashamed" or shy about her huge gay fanbase (I mean...most performances of Slow have had quite the male homo-eroticism to them...). THAT is a huge part of why she is so embraced by the "gay community." I don't need her out picketing with people for Gay Rights or performing at shitloads of gay venues to know that she's appreciative of her gay fans...or deserving of my reverence.

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written by Marion , January 30, 2008

Why should we give our support to gay artists. What do gay artists do for us. I cant think how K D Lang or Elton John have made my life better. They've given me far less than the enjoyment I've had out of Kylie. Its a ridiculous notion that we should only support gay artists. If they dont appeal, they dont appeal....Australia loves Kylie!
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written by Gustavo , January 30, 2008

Aw how sad, you don´t have nothing more important to do with youre life ? Kylie doesn´t know who you are and never will....you´re just too sad!
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written by Justin1972UK , January 30, 2008

Are you suggesting that we should be more interested in Janis Ian, Rufus Wainwright and k.d. lang, just because they're gay? Being gay isn't an automatic passport to an artistic superiority.

In the great scheme of things, wouldn't it be more preferable to be a fan of Kylie than a homophobic rapper? Why not direct your venom towards the plethora of mundane sh1t-hop which occupies much of the charts these days?

I agree that man cannot live by bubblegum alone, but I think you're patronising your readers by inferring that the average Kylie fan isn't also a fan of the Janis Ians, Rufus Wainwrights and k.d. langs of this world.

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written by Boombox , January 30, 2008

You have many issues....mental issues.
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written by Henk , January 30, 2008

this sounds like a dissapointed fan.
Kylie is an artist. She pleases us with her music. What else did you want her to do? Kiss your feet? my advice. get a life and don't bother hers if you don't like her personality for any kind of false excuse.

Hail to Kylie, my second mum.

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written by Jimmy , January 30, 2008

Perhaps because people like Kylie inject a bit of fun, colour and energy into the routine grind of daily life, rather than spent their whole lives singing about how dire things can be. If music is escapism to more exciting and colourful times, the Kylie is Music. If you dont like Kylie, or her music or what she stands for then fine - why do you feel the need to write about it like this, that smacks of sel-obsession to me, or is it ok to assume we all want to read your drivel?
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written by Addison , January 30, 2008

Try being a Kylie fan in the U.S...We get absolutely nothing!!!! I'm not quite as bitter as this author though, I must admit.
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written by Scott Davies , January 30, 2008

I totally agree. I think it says a lot about how money-oriented and shallow the gay community has become when someone as inane and cash-oriented as Kylie Minogue is held up as one of our greatest gay icons. This is a woman who never offers an opinion on anything. Madonna is at least outspoken, has done a lot for HIV/AIDS awareness and has spoken eloquently about her gay friends, brother and fans. And even then I wouldn't say she was one of our greatest gay icons. It should take a bit more than being faaah-bulous.
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written by James S , January 30, 2008

Jealous much?

I appreciate Kylie for how humble she, how she readily accepts that luck had a part to play in her success and how she's majorly grateful for everything good that happens to her.

She doesn't owe anyone anything... and thank god she doesn't pander to her gay audience all the time.

You're touching on an incredible amount of theory re: gay identity and how gay people relate to strong women etc, it's NOTHING to do with musical talent.

Kylie has always been quite private, and so she should be, it's probably stopped her going down the Britney route. And so she's cagey in interviews.. so what?! I don't like her for opinions and shoutouts, I like her for her music and bounceback attitude.

Really quite an ignorant article, all in all.

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written by Billy McLaughlin , January 30, 2008

I cant take this article seriously, simply because this writer seems to have such a hatred of Kylie. Aren't journalists etc meant to be impartial, or at least offer the alternative viewpoint. Yeah, and so what if she doesn't do anything directly for us. Do we ask what Will Smith does for us before we go view his latest film. Entertainment isn't about what the artist responsible does for the gay community. Not everything's about being gay you know - and its precisely this attitude that this journalist expresses that smacks of being self obsessed. Self obsessed - takes on to know one.
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written by NeilSayingHey , January 30, 2008

Following an artist simply because they're 'gay' would be pretty tragic - I'm sure most of us give our fair share of support but thats going overboard in this day and age. And Kylie never said "even I forget who I am". This is just lousy journalism.
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written by Ezra , January 30, 2008

Why should we not love one that is not part of "us"? Why in fact do you feel the need to draw a line between "them" and "us"?

This really is a silly opinion piece, people love Kylie because they do and they choose to, just as you choose not to.

She may represent something that some want represented in their life and offer a world that as a young confused gay man they crave, or she may just be someone that brings joy.

And as for not being genuine, Kylie is a professional, a well spoken, media savy person. She knows, and has experienced the highs and lows of the media, and thus plays them just as they try to play her. She has her personal life and that of being a performer.

ultimately Kylie is a performer that delivers a product consistently and that many gay (and non-gay) people have come to admire and appreciate her for.

as for other gay artists, they are celebrated and loved too, but why should gay people only appreciate gay performers?

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written by Demigure , January 30, 2008

Wow spot on.Hoorah for the long awaited observation.Been saying this since 2000 myself.
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written by lover , January 30, 2008

what an idiotic post
love kylie

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written by angel1988 , January 30, 2008

screw you, get over yourself, what a load of crap, sounds to me like jealousy dont you think???
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